‘I never realised everybody felt as happy as I do when I am around autistic people’: A thematic analysis of autistic adults’ relationships with autistic and neurotypical friends and family
Abstract
Lay abstract
Introduction
Methods
Methodological approach
Participants
| Participant ID | Age | Gender | Age of autism diagnosis | IQa | AQb |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 21 | Female | 16 | 103 | 25 |
| 2 | 24 | Female | 18 | 140 | 38 |
| 3 | 46 | Female | 46 | 111 | 46 |
| 4 | 42 | Male | 40 | 102 | 38 |
| 5 | 21 | Female | 6 | 99 | 25 |
| 6 | 26 | Female | 26 | 114 | 33 |
| 7 | 33 | Female | 31 | 139 | 47 |
| 8 | 34 | Female | 33 | 135 | 36 |
| 9 | 36 | Female | 32 | 123 | 42 |
| 10 | 42 | Female | 42 | 104 | 31 |
| 11 | 51 | Female | 49 | 129 | 29 |
| 12 | 27 | Male | 5 | 104 | 37 |
Procedure
Measures
Semi-structured interview
| Question number | Question |
|---|---|
| We are going to start by talking about the people you spend time with who are not autistic | |
| 1 | Who are the non-autistic people you spend time with? |
| 2a/b/c | How do you know them? When and how did you meet? |
| 3 | What kind of things do you do together? |
| 4 | Now, let’s focus on person X. Can you tell me some of the good things about spending time with this person? |
| 5 | Can you tell me about some of the difficult things or challenges about spending time with this person? |
| 6a/b | How do you feel when you are with them? Why do you think you feel like that? |
| 7a/b | How do you feel after spending time with them? Why do you think you feel like that? |
| 8 | Is there anything else you want to tell me about how you relate to the non-autistic people in your life? |
| Now, we’re going to talk about the autistic people in your life | |
| 9a/b | Do you know any autistic people? Who are the autistic people you spend time with? |
| 10a/b/c | How do you know them? When and how did you meet? |
| 11 | What kind of things do you do together? |
| 12 | Now, let’s focus on person X. Can you tell me some of the good things about spending time with this person? |
| 13 | Can you tell me about some of the difficult things or challenges about spending time with this person? |
| 14a/b | How do you feel when you are with them? Why do you think you feel like that? |
| 15a/b | How do you feel after spending time with them? Why do you think you feel like that? |
| 16 | Is there anything else you want to tell me about how you relate to the autistic people in your life? |
| I am now going to show and read you four statements, one at a time. I will ask you what you think about each statement and whether you agree or disagree with it according to your experiences. Please don’t feel obliged to agree! Some of the statements might really fit your experiences and some might not be true for you at all. | |
| 17 | ● ‘In autistic spaces, I am accepted for who I am’. |
| 18 | ● ‘Being autistic in shared autistic space may be easier than being autistic in neurotypical space – or it may be harder’. |
| 19 | ● ‘There are benefits that neurotypical people bring to social situations’. |
| 20 | ● ‘I notice that non-autistic people don’t understand autistic people any better than autistic people tend to understand non-autistic people’. |
| Thank you for sharing your experiences with me. Do you have anything else that you want to ask, or is there anything I didn’t ask you that you would like to talk about? | |
The AQ
The Wechsler Abbreviated Scale of Intelligence–II
Data analysis
| Initial quotes | Codes | Sub-themes | Theme |
|---|---|---|---|
| ‘I have friends . . . who say ‘you should meet these people, they are great, lets all go out to a pub’ and I find it really hard, but also I want to be involved and . . . that is when I feel most upset’. (Participant 2) | Difficulties with neurotypical social activities | Majority social activities and contexts | Minority Experience |
| ‘The physical spaces we have to go to are extremely challenging’. (Participant 8) | Difficulties with the space during neurotypical social interactions | Majority social activities and contexts | |
| ‘I don’t know how to be formal, where I should look and when’. (Participant 7) | Not knowing social rules of neuro-majority | Majority social norms | |
| ‘I talk too much. I don’t know if you have managed to guess that. But I talk too much’. (Participant 4) | Feeling like your style/method of communication does not fit with others | Majority social norms | |
| ‘I feel really annoyed with myself because it is a really normal thing to go to the pub with your friends. But I find it really hard and I really don’t like it . . . but I wish I did’. (Participant 2) | Self-directed negative feelings around/after social events | Impact of being in a minority | |
| ‘My neurotypical family can say ‘you are difficult to be around’ if I don’t mask’. (Participant 2) | Pressure from others to behave in a more ‘neurotypical’ way | Impact of being in a minority |
Results

Theme 1: Cross-neurotype understanding
Subtheme 1: Across-neurotype difficulties
I wouldn’t spend time with people if I didn’t enjoy it, they wouldn’t be my friends . . . regardless of neurotype . . . but neurotypical people . . . are a lot harder to read, and I don’t feel relaxed. (Participant 9)I’m tired afterwards. It’s not that it is bad, it is just tiring. It takes effort to be around them. I am always thinking ‘should I speak now, what should I say, has this moved on? Is this okay, is that appropriate, will that offend someone? And who is speaking, and what are they saying, and do they really mean that?’ (Participant 2)
After spending time with neurotypical people there will be a significant amount of time doing something to let my brain switch off a bit, sometimes afterwards it is a challenge to cook myself a meal or something like that. (Participant 12)After spending time with neurotypical friends, I feel wiped out, completely exhausted. I need to lie in a darkened room for 3–4 hours and when I do, I don’t sleep, I just shut off. I can’t even move and the only way I can communicate is in humming noises. (Participant 3)
Subtheme 2: Within-neurotype ease
With my autistic friends . . . people are very sensitised to people being or feeling left out . . . so many of them seem to make a really big effort to stop that from happening. So it’s a much more accessible community for me, because I don’t have to make all the effort, which is how I feel with neurotypical people. Autistic people are willing to meet halfway. (Participant 7)
Theme 2: Minority status
Subtheme 1: Majority social norms
I work very hard to pass as ‘normal’ with non-autistic people. I understand them and I see how they interact. But because they’ve never had to study autistic people in the same way I study them, they don’t understand me, or consider my needs. (Participant 3)Neurotypical people do not get why certain things might be difficult or an issue for someone with autism. You try to explain it but they are constantly seeing it from a neurotypical perspective. (Participant 9)
Subtheme 2: Majority social activities and context
One of the most difficult things when your friends say ‘you should meet these people, they are great, let’s all go out to a pub’ and I find it really hard, but also I want to be involved and . . . that is when I feel most upset because . . . on the other hand I don’t want to, I want everybody to go somewhere that is not noisy. But I also don’t want to be the person that makes us all go to a library . . . and speak in hushed tones. (Participant 2)
Subtheme 3: Impact of being in a minority
I feel awkward and ashamed [when interacting with neurotypical people . . . I still have a lot of internalised ableism about how I ‘should’ be able to do things that I find difficult. (Participant 9)Sometimes my [neurotypical] friend, her [neurotypical] partner and my [neurotypical] partner get together for dinner. I’m the only autistic one and I find it very difficult to keep up with conversations and I lose words . . . the others think I’m drunk sometimes (although I’ve not been drinking), and I let them think that because I get embarrassed at mixing my words up. (Participant 3)
Theme 3: Belonging
We can talk and laugh and challenge ideas and be philosophical, or we can sit together and draw and be silent. We simply allow each other to be and accept everything that we are. (Participant 3)
Subtheme 1: Understanding
As lovely as all my neurotypical friends are, I feel I belong there [with autistic people], and I am like everybody else. I have never had that before . . . I feel like I understand people and they understand me. (Participant 2)Sometimes autistic people like me, you try really hard to be normal . . . and if I was in an autistic space I feel like there is no pressure really. (Participant 4)Since getting autistic friends I think ‘this is how neurotypical people must feel all the time’ and that is quite sad actually. To realise that people have felt this their whole life, and at ease around people, and felt they belonged as much as I do now. It’s a shame it didn’t happen sooner. (Participant 2)
I have got a lot more patience [with autistic people] . . . if somebody is going on and on about something and I am like, that is really boring but it’s fine, ’cause I do the same. Whereas I don’t have the same patience for neurotypical people who just go on about things. (Participant 2)I know that they [an autistic person] might be telling me for 20 minutes about some bird that they saw, but I know how they are feeling, because I feel happy when I see things that I like and I will go on about it. So even though I have no interest in what you are saying I understand how you feel. (Participant 7)
Subtheme 2: Being your authentic autistic self
It’s fab when we get together, autistic space is so validating compared with the outside world, it’s wonderful to see people stimming away without feeling self-conscious. (Participant 9)I feel free as a bird. No effort is needed. I don’t need to mask and I don’t feel stupid if I don’t understand something. I feel able just to ask. We’re all always getting our words mixed up or losing them and we lost the thread of our conversations but we laugh at it. We all do it and we all get it. (Participant 3)
Subtheme 3: Happiness, well-being and resilience
It’s very important to have autistic space for people . . . sometimes people fear this is a form of self silo-ing or segregation and I’m not trying to say we don’t need to survive in the non-autistic world too . . . but it’s such a lifeline for many of us. (Participant 9)There is so much emotional support that comes from spending time with autistic people, because sometimes, there is something that other people see as quite small and actually it can be soul destroying . . . they just get it, and they can help accordingly. (Participant 12)Autistic people are better at giving advice about your mental health because they have a better idea of what your problem is. Neurotypical people don’t get it in the same way. (Participant 2)
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